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Neil Diamond Vs. Punk Rock

Neil Diamond Vs. Punk Rock

Where Dave Holmes joins us and we force David Lyons to choose between his two musical loves.

SHOW NOTES by TIM MALCOLM

Intro song: “Love Theme from Sophie’s Choice” by Marvin Hamlisch

References:
- The movie “Sophie’s Choice,” starring Meryl Streep
- Welcome special guest Dave Holmes!
- Holmes wrote about seeing “Legal Eagles” with Rod Stewart (
here’s something like that)
-
Read Holmes’ book “Party of One” (it’s really good)

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Yacht Rock Bone Throw: “Heartlight” by Neil Diamond (Amazon)

References:
-
Inspired by “E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial” (and smooth music)
- On the track:
David Foster, Carole Bayer Sager (Women of Yacht), Paulinho de Costa, Craig Hundley (“The Dude” by Quincy Jones), Marty Walsh (worked with Baron Longfellow), Jim Keltner, Neal Stubenhaus (Nielsen/Pearson)
-
“Plot rock”
- Terra cotta
- “America” by Neil Diamond

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Neil Diamond vs. Punk

Dave Lyons’ love of Neil Diamond
Example song:
“I Am...I Said” by Neil Diamond (Amazon)

References:
-
Daffy Duck
- “You Don’t Bring Me Flowers” by Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand (written by Diamond)
- Diamond
at the Statue of Liberty Centennial
- Nov. 11, 1993: Dave Lyons’ first Diamond concert
-
Album “September Morn” by Neil Diamond

Dave Lyons’ love of Punk
Example song:
“I Wanna Be a Homosexual” by Screeching Weasel

References:
-
The Clash, the Ramones
- Indiana and blowjobs
- Black Flag shirt, Mr. Bungle shirt
- Operation Ivy, Government Issue, the Descendants, Green Day (pre-”Dookie”)

The Case For Neil Diamond - By J.D. Ryznar and "Hollywood" Steve Huey

1. “Cherry, Cherry” by Neil Diamond (Amazon)

References:
- Harlan Howard’s quote
about what you need to be a songwriter
- Rolling Stone on “Cherry, Cherry”
- Ripoffs: “R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A.” by the John Mellencamp, “What I Like About You” by the Romantics
- Kasenetz-Katz Bubblegum Factory
- Original title of the song: “Money, Money”

Rebuttal: “You Baby” by Neil Diamond (Amazon)

References:
-
Neil Diamond in blackface for “The Jazz Singer”
- “RuPaul's Drag Race”

2. “Shilo” by Neil Diamond (Amazon)

References:
-
Tangerine IPA
- Manic pixie dream girl
- Translation of “shilo(h)”
- “Puff the Magic Dragon”

Rebuttal: “Sweet Caroline” by Neil Diamond (Live at Fenway Park)

References:
-
“Sweet Caroline” at Fenway Park
- “Sweet Caroline” by Jimmy Buffett at Fenway Park
- Kate Gosselin hair

Extra Rebuttal: “Headed for the Future” by Neil Diamond

References:
-
“Charm that Snake”

3. “Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show” by Neil Diamond (Amazon)

References:
-
Album “Hot August Night” by Neil Diamond
- “I’m a Believer” by the Monkees, and Neil Diamond
- “Crunchy Granola Suite,” “Soggy Pretzels”
- L. Ron Hubbard
- Also liked to brag: Da Brat

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50 States in 50 Podcasts: Florida
“Cheeseburger in Paradise” by Jimmy Buffett (Amazon)

Other artists from Florida:
-
Flo Rida
- Gabriel Brown
- Buster Bennett
- Bellamy Brothers
- Jim Morrison
- Molly Hatchet
- Blackfoot
- 38 Special
- Also: Tampa death metal scene
- Bernie Higgins
- Pretty Poison
- Hulk Hogan
- Stevie B
- Expose
- The 2 Live Crew
- Tom Petty

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The Case For Punk - By Hunter Stair and Dave Holmes

1. “Die For Me” by T.S.O.L. (Amazon)

References:
-
“Get in the Van” is Henry Rollins’ memoir
- Here’s stuff about Guns N’ Roses

Rebuttal: “America” by Calibretto 13

References:
-
Christian punk revival of the late 1990s (Tooth & Nail)

2. “I Don’t Wanna Go Down to the Basement” by the Ramones (Amazon), “Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World” by the Ramones (Amazon)

References:
-
CBGB in its heyday (Television, Talking Heads, the Police, Blondie) (it’s now a John Varvatos)
-
Story about the Ramones being confused for boys with developmental disabilities
- Sid Vicious learned from the Ramones
- Jeff Starship (Joey Ramone’s name in Sniper, his pre-Ramones glam band)

Rebuttal: “Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)” by the Offspring (Amazon)

References:
- This is not
“Rock of Ages” by Def Leppard
- This song is a re-write of “Come Out and Play” by the Offspring
- Here’s the video for “Pretty Fly For a White Guy”
- Better take: “White & Nerdy” by “Weird Al” Yankovic
- Album “Smash” by the Offspring: highest-selling independent album ever

3. “Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn’tve?)” by the Buzzcocks (Amazon), “Harmony in My Head” by the Buzzcocks (Amazon)

References:
- This may have led us
to Sum 41
- Max’s Kansas City
- Ramones “Too Tough to Die” t-shirt
- Vans Warped Tour
- “Sweet Caroline” by Me First and the Gimme Gimmes

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- Archivist: Tim Malcolm (Twitter: @timothymalcolm)

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