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When Motown creatives left to create their own labels.

Show Notes

Intro song: “My Girl” by the Temptations (Amazon)



Yacht Rock Bone Throw: “Love is a Mystery” by Robbie Dupree (Amazon)

Second “What a Fool Believes” ripoff on Dupree’s album “Robbie Dupree”
Cover of “Robbie Dupree” (looks like Michael McDonald, right?)
“Hot Rod Hearts,” the song, by Robbie Dupree
- The song has “love letter lyrics”
- “Dupree” has
Bill LaBountyMichael Boddicker
- Dupree’s follow-up album “Street Corner Heroes” with the song “Brooklyn Girls”


Post Motown

Example song: “Trying to Hold On to My Woman” by Lamont Dozier

Holland-Dozier-Holland (Lamont DozierEddie Holland Jr.Brian Holland) broke from Motown in the late 1960s and started new labels: Invictus and Hot Wax. They often wrote for those labels under the pseudonym Edith Wayne.

The goal of Post Motown was to keep up with Berry Gordy’s Motown sound and Philly soul. You’ll hear clear production, sharp melodies, and elaborate arrangements with some Philly strings and psychedelic sounds. Lyrically, Post Motown tries to keep up with a changing, progressive society (feminism, specifically).

Rockwell (Berry Gordy’s son)
Wax Trax! (a label out of Chicago)

10. “Crumbs Off the Table” by the Glass House

Scherrie Payne is lead singer of the Glass House
- Sounds a little like
Sly & the Family Stone
Norman Whitfield era of Motown (psychedelic soul)

9. “Somebody’s Been Sleeping” by 100 Proof Aged in Soul

“This just in!”
100 Proof Aged in Soul includes Joe Stubbs (brother Levi was in the Four Tops)
Frankie Gaye wrote an autobiography saying he was great, too
“Beach Babes From Beyond” (starring Joe EstevezDon SwayzeJoey Travolta)
“Too Many Cooks (Spoil the Soup)” by 100 Proof Aged in Soul (also, “Too Many Cooks”)

8. “Reason to Survive” by the Rance Allen Group (Amazon)

Larry & Fonce Mizell are back!
- From the album
“Say My Friend” by the Rance Allen Group
“Change (Makes You Want to Hustle)” by Donald Byrd (Cookout Jazz)
- Fonce Mizell was a member of
the Corporation
“I Want You Back” by the Jackson 5
“Windy” by the Association
The 27 (sic) Virgins
- Did the Post Motown dudes (Rance Allen Group, say) influence the Porcaro brothers?
Monroe, Michigan (if there’s a South Detroit)

7. “She’s Not Just Another Woman” by the 8th Day

Sammy Hagar has to be in this countdown, right?
Song was originally by 100 Proof Aged in Soul
“Serial” season two? Yeah ...

6. “Ripoff” by Laura Lee

Wallpaper is coming back
“Women’s Love Rights” by Laura Lee


50 States in 50 Podcasts: Montana
“Live in a Hole” by Big Black (Amazon)

Other artists from Montana:
Jeff Ament of Pearl Jam
- Most of
the Decemberists
The Mission Mountain Wood Band

“Jordan, Minnesota” by Big Black
- Albini is from Missoula, Montana
- Albini’s later bands Rapeman and Shellac
- Albini refused royalties after producing “In Utero” by Nirvana
- Albini also produced “24 Hour Revenge Therapy” by Jawbreaker
Montana’s only legal sex position: missionary
Big Sky Moose Drool: delightful Montana beer


The PlugHole
- Great bumpers and other music by @OCDefender
Buy a Beyond Yacht Rock t-shirt at!
Pre-order an “I’m Bob Seger” t-shirt at
- Drink Rhetoric Coffee (promo code YACHTROCK); arty bean bags!


5. “Westbound No. 9” by the Flaming Ember

- A
blue-eyed soul group
Played in same bowling circuit as Bob Seger
- Backing vocalists were Telma Hopkins and Joyce Wilson (Dawn)
Video of “Westbound No. 9” on “Upbeat”
They should’ve worn blackface like Neil Diamond
- Deacon Jones (a junk blues character; Wynonie Harris)
Gordy slept with Diana Ross
- The Flaming Ember was inducted into the Rockabilly Hall of Fame

4. “Give Me Just a Little More Time” by Chairmen of the Board (Amazon)

“Chairman of the Board (Bored)” starring Carrot Top
- Lead vocalist of the Chairmen of the Board General Johnson
- J.D.’s old radio station job (
WLCS in Muskegon, Mich.)
The Marines have generals
- Chairmen of the Board recorded the original “Patches” (covered by Clarence Carter)
Dennis Coffey on guitar (“Blackbelt Jones”)
“Strokin” by Clarence Carter
“Give Me Just a Little More Time” by Kylie Minogue

3. “Want Ads” by the Honey Cone

- The Honey Cone lead singer
Edna Wright (sister of Darlene Love)
- The Honey Cone also had Shelly Clark (
The Ikettes, married Verdine White) and Carolyn Willis (“Get Closer” by Seals and Crofts)
- Sounds like
“Mr. Big Stuff” by Jean Knight (the Oreo commercial)
How “Want Ads” came to be
- Guitar on this song by “shirtless” Ray Parker Jr.

2. “Car Wash” by Rose Royce (Amazon)

“Car Wash” is played often at the ballpark
The Wave sucks
Norman Whitfield stuck with Rose Royce (originally Total Concept Unlimited)
Michael Schultz (“Cooley High”) directed “Car Wash”
- Other comedies of the time: “Blazing Saddles,” “Oh, God!”
“Car Wash” by Christina Aguilera and Missy Elliott

1. “Band of Gold” by Freda Payne (Amazon)

“Gold face”
Sitar, as used by the Beatles
- Scherrie Payne, Dawn girls, Parker Jr. all on the track
Ray Parker Jr. writes solely about cheating
- Payne was married to Gregory Abbott (“Shake You Down”), the lead singer of the Sylvers
- Payne is in the Dames of Malta

Other proposed genre songs:
“Time Gonna Change Everything” by Lucifer (The 8th Day’s album’s cover)
H-D-H had a label called Music Merchant (the band Warlock [“You’ve Been My Rock”])


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